Ivan Perry

IVAN PERRY Ivan Perry, a son and third child of Charles Asahel Perry and Asenath Melvina Dun¬can, was born 4 October 1897 at Ferron, Emery, Utah. He married, 25 August 1927, Hannah Laurie Hair. ORDINANCES: Ivan Perry, Baptized 1 July 1906; End. 18 June 1919; BIC. Hannah Laurie Hair, born 10 October 1900, at Vernal, Uintah, Utah, 8. Child of John Hair, Sr. and Elizabeth Clayborn Holfeltz. She died 28 September 1977. ORDINANCES: Hannah Laurie Hair, Baptized 3 Apr 1909; End. 8 Oct 1924; BIC; S to H 25 Aug 1927 SL. THEIR CHILDREN: 1.Kenneth I. Perry, a son, born 29 March 1929, Salt Lake City, Utah. Unmarried. ORD: Baptized 22 Mar 1937; End. 27 Jan 1949; BIC. 2.Betty LaDawn Perry, a daughter, born 16 April 1934, Vernal, Uintah, Utah. She married, 19 August 1953, Larry Colton Rawlings. ORD: Baptized 2 May 1942; End. 19 Aug 1953; BIC; S to H 19 Aug 1953. 3."J" "C" Glade Perry, a son, born 1 May 1942, Vernal, Uintah, Utah. He married, 18 November 1966, Caro1ynn Emma Stevenson. ORD: Baptized 25 June 1950; End. 11 May 1961; BIC. Ivan Perry, a son and third child of Charles Asahel Perry and Asenath Melvina Dun¬can, was born 4 October 1897, at Ferron, Emery, Utah. I attended the Ferron Ele¬mentary during the First and Second grades. After moving with my parents to Vernal, Utah in August of 1906, I attended the Glines Elementary School through the seventh grade. I finished the eighth grade at the Uintah Stake Academy 1914. As early as six years of age, I began milking cows, feeding pigs, hauling hay, irrigating and helping with other types of farm work. Throughout my childhood and as a young man I worked on the farm. At age sixteen, I took my brother Myron to Price, Utah, by team and wagon, where he caught a train to Salt Lake City on his way to the mission field. Grandfather Duncan met us at Price. After Myron boarded the train the next morning, Grandfather accompanied me to Ferron, Utah where I visited for a few days, then I returned to Vernal, Utah bringing Grandmother Dun¬can, Arnold, Archie and Rolland with me. That fall Ora and I went to Ferron by team and wagon taking Grandmother, Archie and Rolland with us. We returned home by way of Helper, Indian Canyon, Duchesne back to Vernal. In the fall of 1914, Father contracted to build three-fourth of a mile of the High¬line canal in the O'Neil flats. During the next two winters, I drove a team hitch¬ed to a tongue scraper and shaking plow while building the contracted part of that canal. We worked also during the summers when we could spare the time from the farm work. My first job away from home was with David W. Deans at Ft. Duchesne on an Indian Lease, plowing new ground and building fence. During the winters of 1917-1918 and 1918-1919, I worked out on Whisky-Creek for the Urado Oil Company south of Dragon, Utah, in Colorado, hauling wood to fire the Oil distillery. At various times I worked with Lester Bingham. I worked with him on his dairy farm just prior to leaving for my mission and also after returning from my mission. June 18, 1919, I left Salt Lake City, Utah for the Central States Mission. I ar¬rived at Independence, Missouri June 20, 1919. After spending two years in East¬ern Kansas teaching the gospel, I left the mission field June 18, 1921, and arriv¬ed in Salt Lake City, Utah, June 20, 1921, just two years and two days after leaving. October 4, 1921, the day I was 24 years of age, I started back to high school, at the old Uintah Stake Academy. During the next three years I attended one full year and two half years and graduated in May 1924. That fall, I enrolled at the Brigham Young University. I completed a One Year Normal Course in Teaching by June 1925. In September 1925, I began teaching as a teaching-principal at Bennett, Utah. The next year, I taught at the Glines Elementary School. August 25, 1927, after a writing Courtship of about eight years, I married Hannah Laurie Hair in the Salt Lake Temple. We had our Honeymoon in the Yellowstone National Park. For the next three years, I taught in the Granite School District in the Salt Lake County. Because of the Great Depression, I returned to the Uintah School District and taught for fifteen years. However, in June of 1936, I enrolled at the Utah State Agricultural College at Logan, Utah. After two summers and one winter, 1936-37, and by taking nine quarter-hours of advanced study through extension study at Vernal from Brigham Young University during the winter, I was permitted to graduate from the Utah State Agricultural College with a Bachelor of Science Degree with a major in Sociology and a minor in Animal Husbandry. This was June 1938. After another summer at USAC I returned to Vernal and served three years as District Coordinator. In June of 1946, we sold our home at Vernal and moved to Provo, Utah. I served as a teaching-principal for seven years and nine years as supervising Principal in the Alpine School District, retiring from the Edgemont School June 1963. The next two years I taught in the Granite School District at Kearns, Utah, where I was retired in June of 1965, at age 67. In 1949, I received my Master of Science Degree from the Brigham Young University in Educational Administration. During the two years from 1965 to 1967, I spent my time at substitute-teaching in the Provo, and Alpine School Districts. When not teaching, I spent my time at gathering data and compiling a Genealogical History of my Grandfather, Stephen Chadwick Perry and his four wives, their ancestors and descendants. This was published December 1966. During the latter part of December 1966, I received a call from the Superintendent of District No. 33 of Montpelier, Idaho, asking me to finish the year teaching at Paris, Idaho. There I began teaching Jan. 2, 1967 and taught five months, until school was out in June. In the Fall of 1967, I taught at Green River, Utah in the Emery County School District until school closed in May 1967. Counting the many days spent at substitute-teaching, I spent forty-one years at teaching. In June 1967, Laura and I took a "Cook" Tour of three weeks visiting twelve west¬ern countries of Europe. Kenneth met us at Florence, Italy and was with us the rest of the tour. For this we were grateful because he was able to take us on many side trips we otherwise wouldn't have taken. Also, in July 1969, Laura and I went with a missionary group on a tour to the British Isles. This group consis¬ted of British Missionaries; and of people who were members of a family who had sent a missionary to the British Mission; and/or, anyone who had migrated from the British Mission or who was a descendant of an LOS family who had migrated from the British Mission. Laura had a brother who was a missionary in England, and her Father's family came from Scotland in 1869; so we were permitted to go. We spent one week in beautiful Scotland, and three weeks in London and surrounding country. NOTE: Ivan Perry was regularly initiated on the nineteenth day of January 1957 into the BETA SIGMA CAMPUS CHAPTER, PHI DELTA KAPPA, and a professional fraternity in Education. In January 1937, Ivan was permitted to join a fraternity of Sociology, PYI GAMMA MEU. Both of these awards were due to scholastic achievement with an "A" aver¬age for two summers and one winter at USAC, 1936-1937. August 24, 1967, Laura and I were set apart as Temple Ordinance workers at the Salt Lake LDS Temple. We began our work there September 5, 1967 and were releas¬ed 22 May 1970. Laura had become ill due to hardening of the arteries, which had affected her memory, which made it necessary for her release. Because of her condition I had to be released that I might be with her and care for her. CHURCH ACTIVITIES: Besides filling a mission, I served as President of the Glines Ward YMMIA for three years after returning from my mission. In September of 1926 I was made second counselor to Bishop John B. Eaton of the Glines Ward. After our marriage, I taught the High Priests and their wives in Sunday School in the Miller Ward, Grant Stake, also I taught an adult group in MIA in Miller Ward and also in the Richards Ward in Salt Lake. I have taught "M" Men and Gleaners combined class, Gospel Doctrine classes in Sunday School, Genealogy classes, and Priesthood classes. I have served as Ward Chairman of Genealogy, High Priest Group Leader two or three times. In the Uintah Stake I served as first and second counselors in the Stake Sunday School presidency and as a High Counselor. After coming to Provo, I served in the Sharon Stake Sunday School Board and as a High Counselor in that stake. After Sharon Stake was divided, I served as High Counselor in the Sharon East Stake. I have served as Home Teacher in every ward in which I have lived. My hobbies are genealogical research and temple work. Since the Provo Temple open¬ed in 1972, I have done 2200 endowments. In April 1972, I had a heart attack, (an Acute Myocardial Infarction). It was while in the hospital, 18 April 1972, that the folks placed Laura in a Nursing Home at Mapleton, Utah. This was a severe shock to me and I had another attack when I was informed of what had to be done. LaDawn was ill at the time and could-n't care for Laura. Kenneth and Glade were out of state and so they did what had to be done. In June 1976, because of financial difficulties, I sold our home in Provo and bought a smaller place in Orem, Utah. September 28, 1977, Laura passed away at the Phillips Nursing Home in Provo. She had been really going down for about two weeks; then early in the morning of the 28th, she died in her sleep. This was another great shock to me. But I was sure she would not last too much longer. It was really a blessing for her as she was not getting anything out of life. She hadn't been able to communicate for several months, and didn't seem to know many people who came to see her. It has been a very lonely ten months since she passed on. HANNAH LAURIE HAIR Hannah Laurie "Laura" Hair was born 10 October 1900, at Vernal, Uintah, Utah. She is a daughter and fifth child of John Hair, Sr., and Elizabeth Clayborn Holfeltz. She attended the Glines Elementary School in the Uintah School District, first through seventh grades. She attended the Uintah Stake Academy through eighth to eleventh grades and B. Y. U. High School where she finished high school. After returning from her mission she attended the Brigham Young University. In October 1924, she entered the Eastern States Mission under B. H. Roberts. She returned home October 1926. Before going on her mission, she served on the Stake Sunday School Board, Duchesne Stake. Before going on her mission she worked in the Duchesne Post Office, and resumed her work there after returning from her mission. After returning from her mission she continued her courtship with Ivan by personal visits by him rather than by letter-writing as they had done the past eight years. They were married in the Salt Lake Temple 25 August 1927. Living in Salt Lake for the next three years. While in Salt Lake, she worked in the Floral Department of the Z.C.M.I. It was while in Salt Lake City, Utah that she gave birth to her first child, at 1393 Major St. Her mother took care of her with Perry G. Snow as Doctor. After moving back to the Basin, we lived at Duchesne one summer, at Roosevelt one winter and then to Vernal on Grandpa Perry's farm for three years. We moved to Vernal city in the fall of 1933, where LaDawn was born 16 Apr. 1934 at Bertha Batty's home in Glines Ward. While living in Glines Ward, she was president of the Primary organization. She also worked in the YWMIA in that Ward. While living in Vernal First Ward, she was made president of the YWMIA of that ward and was in that position for about two years. While we were living in the Vernal 3rd Ward she was made a counselor to Mae T. Johnson in the Stake Relief Society. She later served with Muriel Wallace in the same position until we moved to Provo, Utah. After moving to Provo in the Pleasant View Ward, she served as YWMIA president in the ward and later as Gleaner leader. She served in the Sharon Stake YWMIA presi¬dency. After the Pleasant View ward was divided, she served as Junior Sunday School Coordinator for several years. As stated above, she served as sales clerk at ZCMI, and J. C. Penney's. She also worked at the Utah Valley Hospital as Receiving Clerk, and as secretary and clerk at the Cannon Cafeteria, Brigham Young University. In all she worked twenty years in the food service at B.Y.U. Traveling is the hobby adopted by Laura and her family. They have visited many states in the Union from California to New York and from Canada to Mexico. In 1957 they flew to the Hawaiian Islands. They met Kenneth there on his return trip from his military service in the Far East. Laura wrote and published a book of the Hair Family. Probably the great climax of her life was when she and Ivan were called as temple ordinances workers in the Salt Lake Temple, in August of 1968. After a lingering illness from 1970 to 1977, due to arteriosclerosis, or hardening of the arteries, Laura passed away at the Phillips Nursing Home, Provo, Utah, 28 September 1977. A very beautiful, well attended funeral service was held in her memory at Berg Mortuary, Provo, Utah, Saturday October 1, 1977. Many wonderful tributes were given by her nephew, Dermont Bell, Evelyn Richardson and Bishop John F. Jones, her former bishop. Scott (Harold) Peterson sang, "Going Home," and a Ladies Trio sang two lovely numbers. She was buried in the Orem City Cemetery. The trio consisted of Shirley Condie, Ruth Folsom and LaRue Rencher, accompanied by Ruth Folsom's daughter. The songs that were sung by the trio were: "In The Garden," and "I Walked Today Where Jesus Walked." Kenneth I. Perry, a son, accompanied Evelyn Richardson on the organ while she read, "If You Go First." He also played an organ solo, "Oh My Father."

THE SADDEST DAY IN OUR YOUNG LIVES Ivan: Uncle George Duncan came to Vernal in late December 1906 or early January 1907. We had left two horses at Ferron and he told us he would bring them to us. And this he did. He came riding in one cold winter evening on his horse, Ted, with a pack on my horse, Dick and leading Tom. He stayed with us that winter. In the spring and summer he herded sheep for Walt McCoy in the Uintah Mountains. He stayed there for a few years. I know he was there in March 1908. Aunt Bertha: We visited them in the fall of 1907. Asenath tried to get Mother to let me stay with her, but Mother was afraid she would get the flu, so I went back. Mother did get the flu right after Christmas. Asenath told us that she would give anything in the world to get another little girl. We didn't know then that they had ordered one. And when the word came that they got one the IS February 1908, Mother said, "Well, it looks like she got what she wanted. And if I had known that I would have let Bertha stay there." She worried so much, for it was the first time she wasn't with her at these times, and Mother never forgave herself. Ora: This baby girl was my only sister, and I was surely happy. Mother stayed in bed two weeks, and I remember when she got up first and sat in a chair. I was so happy and held the baby. Then she got very sick with blood poison and pneumonia. She kept getting worse. I was nearly twelve -- just old enough to know and understand what it meant, and I was very sad. One day, I remember so well, I went out in the room where the washer was, and stood by the washer and prayed that Mother would get well. I remember kneeling at Mother's knee and praying every night. Ivan: I well remember when Mother was so seriously ill, Myron said to me, "Let's go and pray for Mother." So we went down to the corral on the south side of the old cow-stable and kneeled down, and he offered a prayer. Ora: But she got worse, and the baby too. And March 1st, Baby Eunice died. Then March second, 1908, Mother passed away. Asahel: That was the saddest day that ever came into our young lives, and Dad was left with eight children ranging in age from two to thirteen and a half. Ivan: The day Myron and I prayed was on Sunday, and Mother passed away the next day. The night Eunice died, Uncle George came into our bedroom and told us about it and we began to cry, and Uncle George asked us not to cry but to pray for Mother because she is very sick. I don't recall whether he said she might die, but I assumed he meant that. But anyway it struck fear to my heart for fear I might lose my dear Mother. When Mother died, it was the saddest day of my life. It deprived me and the others of a choice companion, a wonderful teacher and a perfect Mother. One never knows what it means to lose a parent until he has experienced it himself. Mother was only thirty-four years of age when she died -- she would be thirty-five come May 4th. Emery County Progress, Saturday, March 7, 1908: Ferron. Mrs. Asenath Perry, wife of Chas. A. Perry, formerly of Ferron, died at her home in Vernal on Monday of this week, leaving a babe about two weeks old and eight other small children. Mr. and Mrs. Perry have been living in Vernal something over two years ... The news of her death is a matter of keen sorrow to her par¬ents, Mr. and Mrs. John Duncan, and a host of relatives and friends in Emery County. Mrs. Wm. Hitchcock of Clawson and Miss Bertha Duncan and George Duncan of Ferron survive her. Mrs. Perry came to Ferron with her parents from Iron County, when a small girl, and lived here up to the time of going to Vernal. Her parents left Ferron Tuesday to attend the funeral. Ora: Uncle George Duncan was staying with us when Mother died. He was with us a lot. He and Mother thought a lot of each other. Grandpa and Grandma, Aunt Julia and Aunt Bertha, Mother's oldest and youngest sisters, came from Ferron to the funeral. Aunt Bertha: We were on our way to Vernal to be with her and her baby, and we got a telegram at Price saying that Asenath had died. Mother was still weak with the flu, so Father called Julia and me outside -- we were at Cousin Sarah Mathis' home, and he told us it was up to us to decide whether we went on to the funeral. It nearly broke our hearts that we couldn't tell Mother... We took the train from Price to Dragon Monday at 11:00 at night... When we got to the Post Office [in Vernal], Uncle George Perry was there to meet us. When Mother saw him, she said, "Oh, Brother, Perry, how is my girl?" He didn't answer her but said to Father, "Oh, Brother John, haven't you told her?" She heard him and said, "Oh, I know she's gone." And she passed out -- hadn't come to when we got up there. They took us to Uncle George Perry's and we worked with Mother there. Then George, my brother, took Julia and me over to see Asenath. When we got to the door, I just couldn't go in. That was the worst thing to do, for she wasn't there. Oh, it was such a shock to me! I had thought on the way that I would take the baby if Charl would let me have it. I didn't know it had died until I got in her house. And, oh dear, no one knows how my poor heart did hurt! It pained till I could hardly breathe. I think that that is what hurt my throat choking back the tears so long. We never could get Charl to go into the little bedroom alone for a long time, as that is where she was laid out ... For a long time we never could get him to mention her name... Ora: I remember seeing Father in a rocking chair crying with four or five little children sitting on his lap and on the arms of his chair. At the funeral I think I have never before or since seen anyone cry as hard as my Father did. Mother and the baby were buried in the same casket, the baby lying on Mother's left arm. Asahel: I remember the funeral was held in our home for Mother and Baby Eunice. About the last words that Mother spoke were that she wanted her sons and daughters to grow up and be honorable men and women. She was so kind and understanding and was loved by all who knew her. I can remember that they were taken in our white top buggy with a white team hitched to it and buried in the Maeser Cemetery. Aunt Bertha: Don B. Colton was a speaker at the funeral. He told about how she had said that she would give anything in the world to get another little girl. He said, "Well she certainly did give her life for a girl." Ivan: So the life of another one of God's choice, choice daughters was called home to be with him. But, Oh, what a sorrowful and tragic experience for a family and a Father and eight small children to experience. But what a glorious and marvelous and wonderful memory we have of our dear, kind, thoughtful, beautiful Mother. She was such a beautiful woman -- so very understanding and sweet to everyone.

Reminiscences At the Perry Reunion, Provo, Utah, July 4, 1972 Ora: One of my fondest recollections was when… Can you hear me? Don't know where to put my phone… when us kids used to go out to the end of father's … the south end of father's place where they had those little orchards, you know, and gooseberries. And we used to go out there with a lot of the neighbor kids, and we would go out there, and we would pick one berry and ear it, and we had to chew it up without pulling a face at all. And then we would take two, and then three, until we got a whole handful. And then we would chew those up and no one could pull a face. I don't know what the penalty was, but I remember doing that. I imagine Edna was with us too. All the neighbor kids had to go through that process, learning how to eat gooseberries without pulling faces. Is Ivan here? Where is he? Oh, clear back there. I was going to tell one on Ivan; maybe he wants to tell it on himself. What made me think about it was when he had his wig on when he was playing the harmonica in the program just now. He and Stephen, I think it was, went out one day, and Stephen got a … you know we used to tie little balls of blueing up in a rag, and we had emptied the water out, and the blueing went out with it. And Stephen took the blueing and put it on Ivan's hair. So if you notice he's kind of white headed, you know he used bleach. But anyway, he put that on his hair, and his hair was as blue as anything could possibly be. And we had to work and work and work - carried bucketful after bucketful of water from the ditch pouring on his head. I don't know how he felt, but we just worked and worked, and we never could get all that blueing out. I guess if we had used soap it would probably have come out, but we didn't even think about that. But anyway, that is why he's bleached out now. I will have to tell one about Myron. We used to always have some kind of water fight or some other kind of a fight. I remember us all running around the oblong, square-cornered table, around, around, around that, chasing each other. Anyway, I was after Myron this day, and he went around, around, and out the front door and down here and down the other end and started down for the corral just as hard as he could run and all at once he got to a place, and he fell back on the ground just as flat is anyone could possibly be. He had run into a new clothesline we had just put up, and it hit him across the nose, and it just threw him back right down on the ground -- just as flat as he could be. It's a wonder it hadn't killed him. And I guess I'd have laughed if it had have been, because I had never seen anything quite is funny as him flipped back there … and … he was just … about knocked him out. I laughed for a long time sitting there, and when I got up and went over there to him. And he said, “Well, now don’t Ora, I'm hurt.” Rolland: do you have anything about Mother and Dad -- stories that we don't know? Ora: Well, No. I haven’t thought of anything. Rolland: Okay, who's the next one? Myron, does this bring anything to you? Myron: I remember when we left Ferron to come to Vernal we got to Price, and next morning we went on over to Nine Mile … not nine mile but Soldier Canyon, and got there just at night and just before … there was a station where the stage stopped up there. And we stopped, oh, I guess a mile below there or a half-mile or something. Turned the horses loose in the mountains there to stay all night, and the next morning we got up and they were all … or one team had gone back toward Ferron. So, Dad had to get on my horse and go back after them. He was gone all day and got back the next night. But the night we got there why we … There were some chickens there in the brush. We didn’t know whose they was -- they were just running there in the mountains, so we killed one or two of them. I don't know which it was, and ate them. The next morning while Dad was gone, here they come down hunting those chickens. Mother told them that we killed one or two there. Oh, she was mad. She sure was an old blister, I’d call her. She's the devil's grandmother, I believe. But she went on back up. The next morning after Dad got back, we went up the canyon … Got hooked up and went up, and she was there ready for us. And we stopped at the station, and she come out like a mad, wet hen, and she told Dad off, and she said, "If you don’t, pay for those chickens, I'll have the sheriff up here even before you get out of the canyon.” She charged us two and a half for the chickens. Said they were thoroughbreds. But I don't know … We made at on to Vernal all right. But I was just thinking about two or three things. I remember once when Ivan and I were down in the fields watering. I was a little brat, and he was littler then I was. But they was a lot of gopher holes around there at that time, and the water would run into them, and I would step on one, and it would spurt up through and out the other one. And I said to him … I said, “Look over there and see that squirt gun over there.” He went right over and got right down, and I stomped down on it, and it come. Sure a funny things. And then Arnold, he … Arnold and Ora, they were the ones that had the good experience. They were herding cows. And so Arnold, he monkeyed along and got … pulled his gallus undone£ and fastened it to the cow’s tail and hooked it on, and he couldn’t get it loose. And she started walking a little too fast, and he started to dragging a little; and she grabbed a willow and started stopping her with the willow and got her on a good trot. Pretty soon it comes lose – broke. And he said, “My oh my, it’s broke.” Then Ace … Ace and Arnold were in front of our place, and the stage used to come along there -- that was the main road that comes into the valley then. And the stage come along -- these big stagecoaches like you see in the movies and. And … I don’t know … They weren’t very old, just about old enough to talk. One of them run out and held up his hands – it was a big, four-horse outfit – and the stage man stopped, and one of them said, “How much do you want for the stage?” I can tell you another one on me. I don't mind telling them. I used to ride to work downtown when I worked at the garage the first time. I rode a bike down there and back every night and morning. And one morning I was going down the road there. And just about the corner where we live there was Verda Hair walking on down the road. And I thought, “Well, now this is just a good time to scare here.” And she was walking down … It was kind of a sandy road, and you had to pick your way – kind of a hard place to go. But there was a big wash that had been washed out. A stream got loose there, and I guess it was four or five feet deep that is washed out the gully down there. So I snuck up behind her, and I yelled. And I had it in my mind to go over towards that wash. And when I yelled, why she jumped right over the same way. I just ticked her leg with one pedal, and I landed right over in the wash on my head. Rolland: Who else has got something now? Steve, you got any stories to tell? Ivan, come on. Tell it. It won’t hurt your heart. Ivan: Well I have been thinking about some of the experiences I have had gathering genealogy. I talked to Anna Johnson, and she told me quite a bit about Mother and Dad. She said … She told about the same stories about the same as Aunt Bertha wrote in her history about mother. Said that Mother had come out to Mapleton to work for Mike Molen. Mike Molen had lived in Ferron. I think owned the first that we bought. He sold it to Uncle George Perry, and then of course we bought the place from Uncle George Perry and then he moved down the creek. But Mike Molen had moved out to Mapleton. I think Uncle George and he traded places someway or something like that. Anyway, Mother came out to work for Mike Molen. He had quite a large family; he wife needed some help. So she decided she wanted to get away from Ferron for a while. She had been working in Granddad … I think Grand Dad or Jimmy Henry, was it? Jim Henry, I guess it was, owned the store there. And mother had worked it the store for quite a while, and she decided she wanted to go out to Salt Lake or outside here. So she got a chance to work for Mike Molen. So she and several other girls where in Sunday School one morning. Anna said she was there, too. She was quite a lot younger then mother, but she remembered it. She said they were sitting up on the stage, and Dad came it the church house. And mother said, “there’s my man.” So after Sunday School Dad went up and made himself acquainted with them. And he asked mother if he could walk home with her, and that was the first of their romance. And then he started going with her quite a bit then. But before that Harvey Whitney had gone with mother quite a bit. And when father died, Harvey Whitney went with us out to Vernal; Laura and Glade, I think, went with us, and Uncle Hine and Harvey. And Harvey told us all about his affair, and we told about Dad. He said Dad was better looking than he was, so he got the inside road with Mother, and so he had to give her up. But he said he sure thought a lot of Mother, but he said Dad was a lot better looking than he was, so he beat his time. That's about the extent of their romance, I guess. It wasn't long after that until they were married. I remember -- Ora talking about eating gooseberries -- we had a lot of currant bushes out there right along side the gooseberry bushes. I don't know who it was -- Stephen, Arnold and I, I guess -- one fourth of July decided we would have a real celebration. So we collected … picked a lot of these red currants and mashed them up and got the juice and put them in a bottle, and then we put soda in them. Well, we drank about four or five bottles of that. We didn't get drunk, but we got awful sick. Myron:~ Rhubarb … we used to use rhubarb quite a lot. Ivan: ~ Archie and Asahel were the ones that had the experience with the rhubarb. Asahel: That's the one I was going to tell. Ivan: I guess I better wait. I'll just mention a little bit about it because I don't know all the particulars about it. But Asahel – I think it was -- told Lundell about it -- said that it sure makes good wine. So he will have to tell you the rest of it. Let's see. I had something else I was going to say. Oh, I remember another experience we had over in Ferron. Seems like the church sent out agents to sell garment to the people in the outlying countries. Somebody came there to sell garments to Dad and Mother. So mother came down to the yard. He and I were hauling hay, and so he tied the … had old March and Mag hooked to the wagon -- hayrack -- and he tied the lines up and left them there. And while he was in the house, why they took off and went down the field with the wagon. So mother came down about the time she saw them going. I was just a little bit of a kid; I couldn’t do anything about it. So she walked down, clear down in the field -- we called it the lower stack yard. And they went down and stopped there, and she went down and got on the wagon and drove them back up. And she got there about the time that dad came back from the house. No harm done, but they … old March couldn't run very fast trying to drag Mag. She was such a big old lazy thing. I had something else I was going to say, but I can't think of it right now. I guess that's all I can think of. Rolland: Who else has got something to say? Ace? Asahel: When Ivan started telling this story, it reminded me of a little incident that happened down in Yuma. A whole bunch of little kids come around for the Halloween night, and they all had their sacks. And so we had some apples we were giving them. And I dropped this apple in this girl's sack, and I didn't pay any attention -- just dropped it. She looked down in and said, “You broke my damn cookie." So that's about the way I thought about you took my damn story. This story of … we ought to get this thing straight on the rhubarb wine. I think Roll was probably involved, and Archie was involved. But anyway we were taking this class in high school, and Harold Lundell -- some of you people will remember him; many of you will -- was the Ag. Teacher. He told us about this making rhubarb wine. So our rhubarb came on bright and early in the Spring of the year. So we decided well if we just as well try it out. So we got it to brewing there for a week or so. And so Arch went over and asked him, "Well, what's the result? How does it react?" He says, "Does it have mold on top?" And of course, that really tickled Lundell, and from that starting day on it was the Perry Brothers in the wine business. I am going to tell one story on Arch. This one happened up in Fort Hall. He and I were working a bunch of cattle, calves in a pen – oh, just a small pen -- and they were milling around. And one calf come up behind Arch and got him right between his legs from behind, and it flipped him back, and he just lit right back to back with that calf. And I tell you, I’ve never seen anything so funny. And that calf … Well it wasn’t excited to start with, but then he started to bucking, and Archie went up and then down. Finally it jumped, and jumped out from under Archie. And Archie jumped … and Archie lit right flat on his back. He didn’t have a thing to catch him with. And I sit there and laughed. Really a kick. Well, we'll think of another one. Ivan: I've thought of mine. When we lived over in Ferron, we had an old white horse called Dan. Myron will remember. He was kind of a bony old fellow. We took him to Fish Lake. But this story that I'm thinking of now … We had been down in the lower fields, and Myron and I were riding him, and we had to stop to open the gate. And so Myron got off and opened the gate, and when he started through, he slapped him on the back and away he went. And I rode him till we got nearly up to the stack yard, and he stopped, and I went over his head. Well, old Dan was about the only horse that I could really ride and get anyplace. But I couldn't ride him after that because he threw me over and scared me. I've always been scared of horses ever since. Rolland: Arch, do you have some rebuttals here? Archie: Too many things happed. I can’t remember them. I remember when we first moved from Ferron over to Vernal. Dad had been working on this canal -- Highline Canal. And they had bought a piano about the time I got there, I guess. I remember all the kids used to come around there and we'd play that piano. And guess I was the only one that could dance at that time, so we -- four, five, six, seven, or eight boys there -- all got together at night, and I taught all these guys how to dance. Ace about that time … we were going to school, and he wanted to learn how to dance because he had a date with some school teacher, I can't remember her name … Miss Strange, that's right -- Strange. And he wanted to learn how to dance. So we got someone to play this old player piano, and I taught him how to dance, so that is the reason why he is such a good dancer today, I guess. We used to have quite a lot of fun around that old house, and we put some little rings on each end of that big kitchen there, and we used to play basket ball in there -- wind us up a ball of yarn and use it for a basketball. And we'd really have a time. All the guys’ just kind of played basketball and all these … this was when Stephen and Ivan was there at home. We used to go down on the floor wrestling. And Dad he would just sit there and watch them. I know he kind of got disgusted at us. Anyway we entertained him and wrestling … I don't know … Stephen and Ivan and Ace wrestled. And Ivan got laughing, and Stephen would get him down. Had quite a time in those days. It was interesting when I came from Ferron over to Vernal. I’d worked with George --George Duncan and Howard Pettey -- and learned how to do about everything there was on the farm, and when I got over there, why I just really had to take a back seat because all the older guys were there, and they would fork off the hay and pitch the hay on and all that sort of thing, and I felt kind of bad cause I had done all this thing over at Ferron. And when I got over there, I really had to take a back seat. But it was interesting just the same. Our main job was … As we grew up, why we had to take care of the garden when the other fellows had to do the other heavy farm work. As the time went by we all had our turn. Finally we all were left there but … I guess Rolland and I and Ace were about the last ones we had to do all the cooking and farming and everything there was. But I usually had to do the cooking because I still was one of the younger ones. And my wife can't get me to do any cooking today because she won't even let me tell her how I cooked them. So it's one of those things that has passed by the board and you don't remember any more. I can't think of anything else. I remember when we was over at Ferron. Rolland and I used to be, I guess, fooling around -- horsing abound -- all the time, you call it. And Bertha Duncan used to say we were like a moving picture -- we were always doing something -- fooling around, wrestling or doing something. She said she could watch us three kids like going and sitting down at a having picture. And that's about all it seems to me we got to do was just to fool around when we wasn't working. She used to sat we were just like a moving picture. Come on, Ivan. Ivan: I don't know whether I ought to tell this or not. She told one on me, so I’m going to tell one on her. This was when grandmother was staying there. She came there to stay one summer, oh, two or three years before Ora got married, and she was going with Bill Mckee. So Bill came in the house to get her and … I don't know where they went -- someplace, to a dance or someplace. Next morning grandma said, "My Lord, Ora, how do you ever stand to kiss him?" Myron: It was like so: on this side (slurp) or on the other (slurp). Rolland: Steve, did you nave something? Asahel: Do you all remember Adair Tyzack? Adair Tyzack? You all remember him? He came up to get Ora one night, and I asked him if I could borrow his buggy while they went in to get her. And so he says, "Ya, go ahead." So I took his buggy. I went around the block a mile and a half, two miles, I guess it was. And I came back. I don't know. Ivan came … Ivan: It'd be four miles. Asahel: No, I went across there by Davey Deans. Anyways, that’s one. Do you remember that? I saw Adair Tyzack … I worked with him after I moved back to the basin. I never did dare … I was afraid to ask him about that. Rolland: I remember one time when Ora and Archie were going together. The evening they’d been riding around in the buggy, and one time – I guess it was Ivan and Stephen had rigged up a lantern over the top over the road between our place and Uncle George’s – Tied it to some trees. And so Arch and Ora came along in the buggy, and I guess Archie took his buggy whip and reached up and cut the string and broke it. Dropped this lantern down and spilled kerosene all over them. I remember one time … Archie mentioned what we did in Ferron. One time we were helping Uncle George with his farming, and he was away some place, I don’t recall. It was in the fall of the year. He had cut some grain, and we thought it was about ready to haul in. I t was just before it was time to start school one fall. So Archie and I started down there and started hauling this grain up, and we hauled it up into Granddad’s stack yard and stacked it up there. Archie would pitch it on – pitch it into the wagon, and I would have to load it. And when it came to unloading it, he would pitch it off the wagon, and I would have to do the stacking. We got the stack up pretty high, just about as high as Archie could handle it, I guess. Then we had to go to school. So one night we cam home from school, and here all this stack of grain was out in the yard in shocks. Granddad had found the grain was too moist and starting to heat. So he had taken it all out and shocked it up in the yard there. I think I was about as disappointed as a kid could be over that. Anyone else have any? Asahel: Steve, you haven’t told yours yet. Rolland: Come on, Steve. What was that they were threatening to have you tell? Come on, spill the beans here" I was talking to Ivan a while back and telling him some of the things -- one or two things I guess that Mother had or Grandmother had told Archie and me. And he hadn’t heard of one of these at least, so maybe I might mention it. I don’t know how many of you know it. But anyway, before Mother went out to Mapleton to work for Mike Molen, She had been engaged to a man by the name of Killpack to be married. And she … I guess they started out to go to Salt Lake to be married … I don’t know all the details of it. But they got part way to Salt Lake, and I guess at one time traveling, why he made some indecent proposal to her. And so she broke off the engagement and went back home. Left him stranded. Anyone else have … Ora: You mentioned about Dair Tyzack. I’ve never thought about him for years. But anyway he came to our place one night – came outside – and he whistled. Father went out to the door and yelled, “Our dog ain’t home tonight.” So Dair went home. Then I will have to tell one on Ivan. Maybe it’s on Myron. I don’t know. It’s on one or the other of them. It’s not me. Anyway, we used to play playhouse. We used to always have the little dishes, and usually they were just broken pieces of dishes that we had. But I do remember Ivan breaking one of my little dishes. I went out the back of the house and he was pounding with a hammer on one of my little dishes I got for Christmas. It was the cutest little thing. And he had it all pounded up into powder. But anyway, these little dishes … We’d play we strained milk and everything. And Myron used to milk “old Mag” – that’s our old mare. He used to milk her. Ivan drank the milk after he strained it. I’d better keep still. Rolland: Speaking of drinking milk … Archie and I – I don’t know whether you other kids did this or not – but when we were in Ferron we always had lots of sparrows in the old shed, and they would make their nests there, and we would rob the nest of eggs. And every once in a while we decided we were going to be brave, so we decided we’d eat these eggs. So each one of us would dare each other to eat one of these sparrow eggs. And I think one I was able to get down without any trouble. I don’t know how many he got down, but it was quite an operation for me. We always had watermelons at home. Uncle George had melons across the street. Elmer and I would usually get together at night and go catting around one way or other. So generally we would decide to go and get some watermelons. And one night we would go into Uncle George’s patch. And we usually had a lot of fun. We’d sneak in there. We knew how to get in there usually without getting caught. I remember one time we were in Uncle George’s patch. We saw him come out of the door, and so we all – we both – flattened down in the patch there and never made a move. But Uncle George had heard us out there so he came walking out. So it was just about the time he got to me I stood up and said, “Well, it looks like you caught me.” About the next time we would be over in our patch, and Dad would hear us down there, and we would always come in from the east end of the patch, and he would hear us and come out. He said, “Get the hell out of here.” He never knew who it was; I don’t think we ever told him. Asahel: How about the chickens? Rolland: The chickens? I think there was only one occasion when the chickens were involved. Arch and Ace, and I’ve forgotten who else … Charlie James, Elmer and Elden, was it? Anyway the James Family, the O’Neil family, their Grandparents, were away from home. This was the night before the forth of July. So we all decided we were going to have some chickens that night. Jimmy and Charlie and Forest said that we could cook them up in their place. So we decided what time we’d meet there, and we went home and did our chores, and each of us came back with a chicken. Turned out that when we got to comparing notes, each family had contributed a chicken without their knowing it. So we put the chicken in the oven to bake, and we played – I don’t know – some kind of cards – 500 or whatever it was. Maybe pokes; I guess it was poker. We played poker until about one o’clock. Then we decided we wanted to swim. So we went down to the canal – our favorite swimming pool – built a little fire on the bank of the canal, all jumped in the canal and had a swim. The water was real warm that time of night, but the air was just about like ice. So we stayed in the water as much as we could. Finally we had to get out to get dressed. We were all shivering before we got back to the house. Then we ate the chickens and cleaned up the mess, and by that time it was daylight. Who else has got something? I remember … Archie mentioned wresting in the house, in the kitchen there. Dad would … he'd eventually tolerate us as long as he could, then all at once he'd have enough of it. He'd say, "cut it out," or something. "Hell and Tommy" let's get this over with." He'd pick up a stick of wood and start throwing wood, at the guys who were wrestling. Any comments? Archie: Ace telling about this home brew being made out of these -- what do you call them? Rhubarb … And we just got it all brewed up we put it in some bottles and got it brewed up pretty good. And I remember in the summer time as it is kind of nice and warm, and I don't remember how many other guys there were, but I remember Arnold -- he took a good big drink, and it was just so warm, and he got so drunk he couldn't tell where he was going. I think that was about the last time we ever did I think we dumped it all out. We didn't drink any more because we didn't want to get caught with it. But anyway, he got drunk, and the rest of us didn't… wasn't feeling too good because … it was really good, though, they say … Lundell, he made a pretty… Ivan: About a year before I got married I was staying there with Dad. He always went over to James Holfeltz' -- James and Effie's. Effie had been dying James' hair, so dad decided to have his hair dyed. So Effie dyed it, and it was as black as coal. I was in bed when he came home, but next morning was Sunday, and he got up and was going to go to Sunday School. I looked at him. His neck was just as black, clear down around here, and his face was just daubed all over. I couldn't hardly tell who he was anyway, but he had his hair and mustache so black. I looked at him and said, "what ya going to do?” He said, “Oh, I’m going to go to Sunday School.” And I said, "Hell, you're not going to Sunday School looking like that are ya?" He said, "What's the matter?” I said, “Look in the glass and see what’s the matter." And he looked in there, and he got mad and wouldn’t even go to Sunday School. For two or three weeks. His face was just as slack as a stove pipe. Rolland: Well, any more stories about the family? Ivan: What about Stephen telling about Mrs. McCoy shooting him? Rolland: Come on Steve. Ivan: Go tell it, Clara. Clara: No, I’ll wait and let him. Rolland: Come on Steve. --Recorded by David Earl Perry --Transcribed by Eldred A. Johnson