Herbert Joel Croft

28 Sep 1914 - 24 Oct 1983


Herbert Joel Croft

28 Sep 1914 - 24 Oct 1983
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Herb Croft’s Journey to the Spirit World And if it’s a testimony, a personal testimony it must be given to you for a personal reason. I think if you’re living the gospel, you’re entitled to personal testimony and inspiration to guide and direct you and your family through out your life, and
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Herbert Joel Croft


East Lawn Memorial Hills

East Lawn Drive
Provo, Utah, Utah
United States

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Sealed May 16, 1941 Under Geraldine "Born [in shadow]" Under Herbert "Born Salem, Utah"


July 2, 2011


June 27, 2011

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These were transcribed from a tape recording he had made. I obtained these from my Gramma, Mae Gabbitas after she passed.

Contributor: deepagel Created: 9 months ago Updated: 9 months ago

Herb Croft’s Journey to the Spirit World And if it’s a testimony, a personal testimony it must be given to you for a personal reason. I think if you’re living the gospel, you’re entitled to personal testimony and inspiration to guide and direct you and your family through out your life, and if I ask for a show of hands, I think I would get a big majority that has came into your lives. It came up this morning in our priesthood class to the study of pully carts. And I asked them,” Brother, haven’t you ever had inspiration or guidance in the priesthood in you own lives?” I immediately got response. Some didn’t, but nevertheless, that’s what we’re here for to prove our faithfulness and to prove our worth on earth, in the hereafter. But I became quite ill, but I ended up, my wife taking me and a friend into the Veteran Hospital. This evening or next evening, anyway, I kept getting a little worse, and Brethren, I haven’t repeated this and I haven’t told it until Brother Marvin came over to my house for I don’t know how many years. I felt like I have mentioned it or I did mention it to several and I have had the response back, “Booooy, you’re crazy!”, and, “That’s a dream, you’re just out of your head.” Well maybe I was. In my mind, it seemed to be very true and run a very clear picture. It’s been a testimony to me and I’ve tried to live very close to what I was promised and agreed. I got worse each evening and this here one night during the afternoon, I got so bad that I couldn’t stand to have a peek of light. They put the blind up on the window, they had it covered with a couple of heavy blankets, then I asked for something to go over my face, cover my eyes up, I can’t stand the light. Well, they said there isn’t any light. All there was was just a peek of light coming from under the door. Anything was just too much. I couldn’t stand it, the pain was so great in my head. My eyes became set in my head and I’ve often contributed that that must have been part of the terrific pain. I could see nothing but one straight pinpoint right straight ahead. I couldn’t see anything on either side or move my eyes at all. But this was an experience that I’ve often felt may be more pain than the body can stand. During the evening that night, my spirit left my body. I loitered in the room. I could see me on the bed and I loitered and I thought about it, just as normal as I’m standing here with you tonight. Finally, the thought came, “No, you can’t stay there, you better go.” And it seemed like right up through the hospital room and up into the open air. And then I traveled at a terrific speed, it seemed terrific to me, but absolutely no wind velocity that I could ever feel. I came, in that few moments to a place, that I feel have no words to describe, but I’ll give you an inkling of a thought. It’s something of a reminder of State Capitol Building or the Provo Courthouse. A big rounding stairway leading on up as you walk, well it was something of a reminder a most gorgeous and beautiful sight. I stopped and proceeded to ascend those stairs. I was walking one at a time. My sister came over to the edge and we talked and I hadn’t quite gained the level yet . She said, “Herbert, what are you doing here?” I stopped and I said, “I had to come.” I said, “I couldn’t stay there any longer.” She says, “You’re not wanted here yet.” She says, “You’re time isn’t up.” She says, “You’re not even supposed to come.” She says, “You go back and finish your mission there on earth.” And in the course of conversation, I agreed to go back. She went back to the edge of the hospital with me and she says, “Now I’m not permitted to go further,” She says, “You go back now and make the best of this.” Now in the meantime, how long I have no idea, I couldn’t have been gone too long as all of this happened in the early evening, and I left again and went through the same process. I loitered in the room. Debating these thought and agreeing to come and stay, finally I left. I went the same route, same place and I ascended the stairs and I walked right on up. I walked up onto the level, and there I was confronted again by my sister, who had passed away in 1934. She called me by name and she scolded me, in a good natured way, but nevertheless, it was mean. “You gave me your word you’d stay.” And I said, “Yes, I know I did, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.” I said, “I intended to stay.” “Well” she says, “We knew you were ill, we knew you were quite bad, but” she says, “You’re not supposed to come here yet.” She says, “You have a mission to perform.” And during the course of conversation with her, I again agreed to go back, and she again came back with me to the hospital edge, and she said, “I’m not permitted to go any further,” she says, “Now you try harder this time,” she says, “Put forth more effort.” So as I came back, it was just the same, every time, just a complete meshing in of the spirit into the body. It was re-entering and immediately that terrific pain. There was absolutely no deviation, it was just the same trick, the same entering and that same leaving, and that same terrific pain, immediately. How long I stayed, I don’t know again, but like I say, it happened in the early evening and a little later I’ll tell you. Again, I finally left my body. This time I loitered and held longer in the room, and I saw the nurses and I saw things that were going on in the hospital. I saw the streets, the cars. The things that happened, and finally I went around and out through the hospital walls and I’ve often wanted the knowledge of how that can be done. As I’ve studied the gospel, I understand the knowledge had been given to me, often I have prayed for it. As the spirit leaves the body, you have that knowledge given to you on how to control the elements, on how to take care of those situations. I have read where your spirit can go through solid concrete through a wave method. Now that was an answer to one of my prayers and thoughts of mystery. It’s a mystery until you find out. This time I made the same journey. I went and walked right up the stairs. Came into a little level, looked around at the most gorgeous sight my eyes have ever beheld. There’s people in different places, busy. Everyone was busy. The most wonderful atmosphere that I presume I will ever witness until after the day of death. I looked around a few moments and I said, “I wonder what I should do. Maybe I better go ask this group of people here what I ought to do.” And then I heard a voice off to the side, and my sister’s calling to me. She came over, and in a scolding, and again she gave me chastisement for not keeping my word. I went on and explained to her my situation and she says, “Dad’s here would you like to talk to him?” I said, “Yes, I sure would.” I said, “It’s been a long time since I saw Dad.” Now he passed away when I was eight and a half years of age. He looked the same as my memory was of him on the day of his death. He was in his temple clothes and he walked away and she called to him by the way, and it seemed to me like oh, 50-100 feet, something like that he was over there and he was busy at the desk. He was by himself and he turned and he looked and she says, “Dad, have you got a minute you can come over?” He turned and he walked over and he walked up to me and he said, “While Herb, while Herbert,” he says, “This is a surprise,” he says, “You’re not supposed to be here.” He says, “It’s good to see you, but you’ve got too much to do there.” He says, “You just shouldn’t have came here.” “Well listen,” I says, “Maybe, maybe not. But I just couldn’t seem to do anything about it.” I says, “Marie has given me a scolding and sent me back twice.” I says, “and it doesn’t do any good.” I says, “I promised her I’d stay.” I said, “My word is no good.” I says, “The pain is greater than I have the ability to withstand, the pain that drives me, it literally just drives me out of my body.” “Yes,” he says, “We know that.” He says, ”We realize that you have been quite ill.” He says, “We didn’t expect to come though.” He says, “Why don’t you go back and perform your mission.” I said, “No, no I don’t want to go back.” I said, “Dad look at me. This is the best I have ever felt in my life.” I says, “There’s nothing I ever did that compares to this. Look at this. The atmosphere is so good here that I don’t want to leave it . “Well,” he says, “This is as good as you’ll find,” he says, “This is real nice here.” He says, “The temptings of the devil is withdrawn from us.” He says, “If you go back,” he says, “I would promise,” What was the first promise he gave to me? Well I can’t say Brothers and Sisters. I haven’t related this, but once in several years. He gave me the two promises. He told he says, “If you go back this night,” he says, “I promise you that this pain will all leave your body.” I says, “No, no, I have no more desire to go back,” I says, “My promise is no good, I can’t stand it.” I says, “I’m literally driven out!” I said, “I can’t make anymore promises.” And we talked for a few minutes and I said, “Dad, there’s a thought that’s boring my mind all of these days of my life. Could I get you to answer me? Give me an answer for it?” Yes son,” he says, “I will if I am permitted to.” I says,” Why was you taken from us, a family of eight kids, all of us small and left us in dire poverty.” He says, “Son, I’m sorry.” He says, “I’m not permitted to answer that.” He says, “I can give you a promise,” he says,” that the best I can do right now.” He says, “I’ll promise you that if you will so live that time will come when you will have that answer to that he says, “ and in that time you’re going to know that this here was for the best.” He says, “As bad as it’s looked to you throughout you’re whole life,” he says, “you’re going to see where it fit in to this here great big plan.” He says, “It’s a huge plan.” He says, “It cover the whole great area,” he says, “and one or two little deviations here doesn’t change the plan.” He says, “But you’re going to be able to see where it was helpful.” He says, “By the way, I can give you one more promise, before you make your final choice,” he says, “If you’ll go back and do what you can, all you can in furthering this gospel plan.” He says, “I’ll promise you with enough health and strength that you can stay there and raise your family.” I said, “If I can have that promise,” I said, “I’ll go back. I’ll be very happy to go back.” I says, “I don’t want to leave my family like you left us.” It had been on my mind heavy all the way through all the hardships that had happened but we made it. But I’ve heard Mother say,”If hadn’t have paid my tithing on that little bit of money that I made from taking in some washings,” she says, “We’d have starved.”

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Herbert Joel Croft was born on 28 Sep 1914
Herbert Joel Croft was 15 years old when Babe Ruth becomes the first baseball player to hit 500 home runs in his career with a home run at League Park in Cleveland, Ohio. George Herman "Babe" Ruth Jr. was an American professional baseball player whose career in Major League Baseball (MLB) spanned 22 seasons, from 1914 through 1935. Nicknamed "The Bambino" and "The Sultan of Swat", he began his MLB career as a stellar left-handed pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, but achieved his greatest fame as a slugging outfielder for the New York Yankees. Ruth established many MLB batting records, including career home runs (714), runs batted in (RBIs) (2,213), bases on balls (2,062), slugging percentage (.690), and on-base plus slugging (OPS) (1.164); the latter two still stand as of 2018. Ruth is regarded as one of the greatest sports heroes in American culture and is considered by many to be the greatest baseball player of all time. In 1936, Ruth was elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame as one of its "first five" inaugural members.
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Herbert Joel Croft was 25 years old when Adolf Hitler signs an order to begin the systematic euthanasia of mentally ill and disabled people. Adolf Hitler was a German politician, demagogue, and Pan-German revolutionary, who was the leader of the Nazi Party, Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945 and Führer ("Leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945. As dictator, Hitler initiated World War II in Europe with the invasion of Poland in September 1939, and was central to the Holocaust.
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Herbert Joel Croft was 31 years old when World War II: Hiroshima, Japan is devastated when the atomic bomb "Little Boy" is dropped by the United States B-29 Enola Gay. Around 70,000 people are killed instantly, and some tens of thousands die in subsequent years from burns and radiation poisoning. World War II, also known as the Second World War, was a global war that lasted from 1939 to 1945, although conflicts reflecting the ideological clash between what would become the Allied and Axis blocs began earlier. The vast majority of the world's countries—including all of the great powers—eventually formed two opposing military alliances: the Allies and the Axis. It was the most global war in history; it directly involved more than 100 million people from over 30 countries. In a state of total war, the major participants threw their entire economic, industrial, and scientific capabilities behind the war effort, blurring the distinction between civilian and military resources. World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, marked by 50 to 85 million fatalities, most of whom were civilians in the Soviet Union and China. It included massacres, the genocide of the Holocaust, strategic bombing, premeditated death from starvation and disease and the only use of nuclear weapons in war.
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Herbert Joel Croft was 39 years old when Jonas Salk announced the successful test of his polio vaccine on a small group of adults and children (vaccination pictured). Jonas Edward Salk was an American medical researcher and virologist. He discovered and developed one of the first successful polio vaccines. Born in New York City, he attended New York University School of Medicine, later choosing to do medical research instead of becoming a practicing physician. In 1939, after earning his medical degree, Salk began an internship as a physician scientist at Mount Sinai Hospital. Two years later he was granted a fellowship at the University of Michigan, where he would study flu viruses with his mentor Thomas Francis, Jr.
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Herbert Joel Croft was 49 years old when The Beatles make their first appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show, performing before a "record-busting" audience of 73 million viewers across the USA. The Beatles were an English rock band formed in Liverpool in 1960. With members John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr, they became widely regarded as the foremost and most influential music band in history. Rooted in skiffle, beat and 1950s rock and roll, the Beatles later experimented with several musical styles, ranging from pop ballads and Indian music to psychedelia and hard rock, often incorporating classical elements and unconventional recording techniques in innovative ways. In 1963, their enormous popularity first emerged as "Beatlemania"; as the group's music grew in sophistication, led by primary songwriters Lennon and McCartney, the band were integral to pop music's evolution into an art form and to the development of the counterculture of the 1960s.
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Herbert Joel Croft was 59 years old when Vietnam War: The last United States combat soldiers leave South Vietnam. The Vietnam War, also known as the Second Indochina War, and in Vietnam as the Resistance War Against America or simply the American War, was a conflict that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955 to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. It was the second of the Indochina Wars and was officially fought between North Vietnam and the government of South Vietnam. The North Vietnamese army was supported by the Soviet Union, China, and other communist allies; the South Vietnamese army was supported by the United States, South Korea, Australia, Thailand and other anti-communist allies. The war is considered a Cold War-era proxy war by some US perspectives. The majority of Americans believe the war was unjustified. The war would last roughly 19 years and would also form the Laotian Civil War as well as the Cambodian Civil War, which also saw all three countries become communist states in 1975.
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Herbert Joel Croft died on 24 Oct 1983 at the age of 69
Grave record for Herbert Joel Croft (28 Sep 1914 - 24 Oct 1983), BillionGraves Record 33467 Provo, Utah, Utah, United States